QUOTE (chiisai_hana @ Oct 29 2007, 03:18 PM) I'm not really sure I see the link. If you're implying that dolls = RPG mentality, I would say that cops&robbers is just as much an RPG mentality but with violence. And I don't think women "enjoy" violence less than men. It's just how it is marketed and targeted by the industry. A female-targeted game that had violence wouldn't necessarily be a flop.
I agree that the ratio of male:female gamers will probably even out, as the next generation has more and more games targeted at them. I believe differences in thought-patterns are what people actually attribute to boys being drawn to video games. Looking specifically at the example of myself and my brother, I can't for the life of me beat video games, even some of the simpler ones. Yet my brother is really good at them. Does this reflect in our learning abilities? Because my brother has problems with academics, while I find writing essays, etc comes easily to me.
I don't want to go much further, because then this thread should really be merged with the "Females" thread. There are, of course, probably many scientific divergences we could go into. But from my position, I would say it is marketing and
perhaps differences in the way people think that accounts for the 'absence' of female gamers at current.
As for a definition of a gamer, I still think that depends on what you define as a videogame. I have female friends who can spend 20+ hours on their computer playing the Sims. Does that make them equal to someone who can spend 20+ at their console playing Halo?
I thought the "best female member" bar in my sig made that clear?
lol
Cops and robbers is role playing yes, so is CS, two teams, one of them counter terrorist [Cops], the other one is the terrorist team [robbers]. As for the role playing kid's games, there are those wherein they play the role of a family, tea party etc.
What we should consider is not what type of game you play to be called a gamer but "HOW MUCH YOU PLAY". Let's say for example, a girl plays every 2 days or so for about 2 hours, then stops after finishing the game, then finds another game after 2 months and goes through the same routine again. Is she a gamer? People who play on the arcades occssionally but just for the fun of it. Are they gamers?
Let's face it, a huge part of the current population play games but not all of them are considered as gamers, and only a few of the gamers are labeled as pro gamers. Even so, the line between gamer and non gamer is too little too vague for us to understand which part of the population are the gamers.
As for the women don't like violence part. Let's just define violence in terms of GTA violence. Not the Kingdom Hearts type of violence. Let's say women settle fights through talking and the most violent thing they could do is a cat fight [Disclaimer: There are exceptions.]. Most women are sensitive, while most men tend to settle fights through brawls and such. Also, men introduced sports like wrestling, gladiators, etc. [Greek and Roman history]. I haven't found any woman shouting WOOHOO when a head comes flying off in a game. Or maybe the psyche of women on games is similar to the one of most adults towards anime?
As for the NES era, yes the games aren't that much gory back then, but the gamers of that generation still stand out or are considered socially deviant, although don't know what exact implications this has to do with the whole gender thing going on.
QUOTE ([Neo) - JubeiChan,Oct 30 2007, 08:34 AM]eh? i don't believe gender never was a factor to begin with, you'd be surprised to how many female gamers there really are out there.
and there's no sense in trying to rationalize a reasoning to it, why would anyone do that to begin with anyway?
yeah, this is major stereotyping here, my sister played video games more then i did when we were kids,..and that was in the early 80s....
It's true that childhood influences can make a bit of a difference, but thats really like anything else in life, why should video games be a more centered point then anything else? you either do it, or you don't, trying to pick a person's brain of the "why" is just plain waste of energy.
i apologize if this comes off as rude, but the whole concept seems more like "TV" then reality.
i kinda giggled a bit at the GTA comment, that made me think of how my sister liked to play it only to imagine the people in it as her boss from work.
again I'm sorry, i know some of this may become misconstrued as some type of flame towards this topic, but i really don't mean it that way
i just strongly believe gender doesn't effect a person's personalty, or they're hobbies or how they spend they're time. with Video games being more an integrated part of our (and many other's) Culture, it's just hard for me to say what gender is more of a dominant gamer, i just know too many female gamers i guess, and believe me, they have a lot of the same game preferences as guys do
P.S. My sister could own anyone in Tekken....scary huh? (well maybe, hehe, she's just so darn good! XD)
This topic maybe stereotypical, but it is supported by facts, it really is real.
This i think ought to be the real question:
Women play games but not as much as men, why?
BTW off topic, i just found out that the first game [Played on some sonar/radio/telegraph/gague thingy] was made by males. LOL all men are slackers.
Finally, please spare me the females thread. The topic of that thread is sooo vague i cannot come up with a suitable reply.
TO be honest, it depends on personal preferences and what you grow up with. I know lots of girls who love old school games cause they grew up with them like Donkey Kong Country, Super Mario Bros, etc. But as for more recent games, most girls don't really play them sadly. But I believe, it depends what your born into, if you live with a serious gamer, then your gonna be a gamer, if your never introduced to games, you probably wont become a serious gamer.
