QUOTE (d'observer @ Jan 18 2007, 02:28 PM)-I checked out some webpages,they said this:
estimated Jewish population before WW2-11 millions others say 15.3...?Who knows whose right?
estimated Jewish killed during Holocaust-+-6 millions
and the so called population in Europe before that 9 millions
Honestly they says 60% of total Jewish population
So here comes the question,hat's long!.... I am not sure what sites you checked. And I don't know the numbers from memory. But one point to keep in mind when reading sites about this. There are many exaggerated (in both ways) numbers out there. Some people try to deny the fact the atrocities of world war 2 happened while other try to make them look bigger.
Then again, there is the question of how exactly do you count! It may look like a stupid question, but counting 6 million people spread across a whole continent is far from easy.
So taking both of these points into consideration I would not look at the numbers too closely. Beside, the exact number is not important. The idea is that it was a lot. If it was 4 million or 8 million does not make it worst or better. It is still a massive number of people who were killed.
QUOTE (d'observer @ Jan 18 2007, 02:28 PM)at least half of them should be able to survive if they flee to WW2 "HEROES" country,say UK,US,Russian,etc,etc. Ever heard about the tiny little thing called the sea? Beside going to a country is one thing. That country still has to accept you. When unsure that you will be accepted, it is a big risk to leave everything.
QUOTE (d'observer @ Jan 18 2007, 02:28 PM)*Yeah,surely if that many people were killed,the Europeans especially the Germany have to make up for it.But why DRAGGED THE WHOLE WORLD along in their repentance..?Most of the world can't do anything to stopped it even if they wanted to... Not sure what you are reffering to. Are you talking about the armistice of world war 1?
QUOTE (shun20 on Jan 18 2007 @ 03:28 PM)The USA, Uk had no clue what really was going on with the jews. Even the german people didnt know. They only knew that they took away all jews to the "Konzentrationslager". They didnt know what happened there. Well, no clue might be a bit strong. But there was no proof. As for the German people, concentration camps were work camps. The information that people were dying and being killed as well as working was simply not circulated or known by many people.
QUOTE (d'observer on Jan 18 2007 @ 04:26 PM)But,that's why I was confused.If they indeed have suffered that much,shouldn't they stop doing what they did to the Palestinians now?They should well-aware how hurts it felt being oppressed for no reason. That is probably the greatest question of all time! Actually, many Israelli are asking that question. But other ones seem more interested in other goals.
Using the "fear of the unknow" and the "fear of the other one" are good ways to attain a goal. Whatever the goal.
estimated Jewish population before WW2-11 millions others say 15.3...?Who knows whose right?
estimated Jewish killed during Holocaust-+-6 millions
So here comes the question,hat's long!.... I am not sure what sites you checked. And I don't know the numbers from memory. But one point to keep in mind when reading sites about this. There are many exaggerated (in both ways) numbers out there. Some people try to deny the fact the atrocities of world war 2 happened while other try to make them look bigger.
Then again, there is the question of how exactly do you count! It may look like a stupid question, but counting 6 million people spread across a whole continent is far from easy.
So taking both of these points into consideration I would not look at the numbers too closely. Beside, the exact number is not important. The idea is that it was a lot. If it was 4 million or 8 million does not make it worst or better. It is still a massive number of people who were killed.
QUOTE (d'observer @ Jan 18 2007, 02:28 PM)at least half of them should be able to survive if they flee to WW2 "HEROES" country,say UK,US,Russian,etc,etc. Ever heard about the tiny little thing called the sea? Beside going to a country is one thing. That country still has to accept you. When unsure that you will be accepted, it is a big risk to leave everything.
QUOTE (d'observer @ Jan 18 2007, 02:28 PM)*Yeah,surely if that many people were killed,the Europeans especially the Germany have to make up for it.But why DRAGGED THE WHOLE WORLD along in their repentance..?Most of the world can't do anything to stopped it even if they wanted to... Not sure what you are reffering to. Are you talking about the armistice of world war 1?
QUOTE (shun20 on Jan 18 2007 @ 03:28 PM)The USA, Uk had no clue what really was going on with the jews. Even the german people didnt know. They only knew that they took away all jews to the "Konzentrationslager". They didnt know what happened there. Well, no clue might be a bit strong. But there was no proof. As for the German people, concentration camps were work camps. The information that people were dying and being killed as well as working was simply not circulated or known by many people.
QUOTE (d'observer on Jan 18 2007 @ 04:26 PM)But,that's why I was confused.If they indeed have suffered that much,shouldn't they stop doing what they did to the Palestinians now?They should well-aware how hurts it felt being oppressed for no reason. That is probably the greatest question of all time! Actually, many Israelli are asking that question. But other ones seem more interested in other goals.
Using the "fear of the unknow" and the "fear of the other one" are good ways to attain a goal. Whatever the goal.