QUOTE (Dalriada @ Jun 26 2009, 02:48 PM)
Is nigger a slur, if it's not used as a slur ?
I'm not american, so I won't go into the word's history.
I could launch far more vicious attacks against black people by using a perfectly politically correct language than by using some slurs. It's pretty easy : just be very polite, but used all the negative stereotypes associated with black people by the racist movements (lazy, drug dealers, rapist, uncultured).
You will touch far more people doing that. That's why I'm far more worried against that than against a bunch of subbers using 'nigger'.
Nigger is a racial slur period. I would have to say that maybe since you're not American (I'm assuming you've never lived in America) it would be possible that you can't fully comprehend its meaning as a racial slur. The negative connotation of "nigger" originated from American slave owners calling their slaves that in a derogatory manner (very basic explanation). I can guarantee you that it's not the same as the french term "nègres." In nooooooooo way would a black american be proud to be called that. So trying to translate the American term "nigger" into french would lose all its meaning. (You simply can't translate its usage in American history to French). It's not a french term.
Plus you say you could,
"Launch far more vicious attacks against black people by using a perfectly politically correct language... It's pretty easy : just be very polite, but used all the negative stereotypes associated with black people by the racist movements (lazy, drug dealers, rapist, uncultured).
So you think that by making general statements like lazy, drug dealers, rapist, and uncultured it would be more insulting? I'm sorry buuuut that is very faulty logic. The term nigger is specifically used soley (historically) in a negative manner against blacks. So it has a far greater impact than any of the examples you just made. I could careless if you called me lazy or uncultured in a polite or impolite way. That would be more effective if I had an anger management problem but not because of race. That particular racial slur carries far greater weight than you just tried to portray.
Is nigger a slur, if it's not used as a slur ?
I'm not american, so I won't go into the word's history.
I could launch far more vicious attacks against black people by using a perfectly politically correct language than by using some slurs. It's pretty easy : just be very polite, but used all the negative stereotypes associated with black people by the racist movements (lazy, drug dealers, rapist, uncultured).
You will touch far more people doing that. That's why I'm far more worried against that than against a bunch of subbers using 'nigger'.
Nigger is a racial slur period. I would have to say that maybe since you're not American (I'm assuming you've never lived in America) it would be possible that you can't fully comprehend its meaning as a racial slur. The negative connotation of "nigger" originated from American slave owners calling their slaves that in a derogatory manner (very basic explanation). I can guarantee you that it's not the same as the french term "nègres." In nooooooooo way would a black american be proud to be called that. So trying to translate the American term "nigger" into french would lose all its meaning. (You simply can't translate its usage in American history to French). It's not a french term.
Plus you say you could,
"Launch far more vicious attacks against black people by using a perfectly politically correct language... It's pretty easy : just be very polite, but used all the negative stereotypes associated with black people by the racist movements (lazy, drug dealers, rapist, uncultured).
So you think that by making general statements like lazy, drug dealers, rapist, and uncultured it would be more insulting? I'm sorry buuuut that is very faulty logic. The term nigger is specifically used soley (historically) in a negative manner against blacks. So it has a far greater impact than any of the examples you just made. I could careless if you called me lazy or uncultured in a polite or impolite way. That would be more effective if I had an anger management problem but not because of race. That particular racial slur carries far greater weight than you just tried to portray.