Do you smoke or do drugs?


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Have your ever smoked or did drugs?

  • Yes

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  • Never

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  • Sometimes

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  • I quit

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  • Once in a blue moon

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  • I did it once and never again

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I personally do not smoke but may drink occasionally (only in the parties but not for leisure).

I've read a newspaper article a while ago, by briefly saying that, saving up the money you spend on the cigarette and alcohols or beers in approximately two years most, you could possibly buy a nice sport car like a Porsche or a giant house (Newspaper actually used real figure by sum up the average expenditure of each person spend in a year).

I don't get the ideas that some people do not have any intention to quit just due to the effect of addiction, I mean addiction may be difficult to overcome for a period of time, but on the other hand if you succeed drive off the addiction, obviously you may get a fresh life again. I also wouldn't call this a hobby if it is highly hazardous to yourself!
 
I said Yes. Because I do drink (and alcohol is probably the most popular drug of all).

I think you all are intelligent and mature enough to hear a dissenting opinion, right? Because this is where I'll bet I part ways with a lot of the populace in here-- I'm not against all drug use. I see absolutely no reason why marijuana shouldn't be legalized (and taxed) like alcohol (I live in the U.S. where it's not currently legal). It does less social damage than alcohol abuse, and alcohol is legal. It does not necessarily lead to "harder" drugs (I never tried-- or wanted to try-- anything harder, and yes, I've smoked marijuana). There are plenty of people in the world who have "inhaled" and they are not bad people, their lives were not destroyed by one hit on a joint, etc. It's really more about individual proclivities-- if people want to escape reality/feel good, they can use (or abuse) anything to do so (pot, booze, video games, anime, books, TV, porn, junk food, etc.).

HOWEVER, HOWEVER, HOWEVER...

I think part of this realization is probably a function of my age (I haven't been a teenager for a while now) and I should note that I didn't start drinking (or try marijuana) until after I was of legal age (okay, there's currently no legal age for marijuana but I was firmly in adulthood when I first tried it).

So, having said all that...

Marijuana ain't that great, as far as I'm concerned. Honestly it just makes me feel as if I'm sleepy, but can't get to sleep, sort of fatigued. I don't see the appeal-- I'd much rather have a drink, thanks! *LOLs inappropriately* And I only ever smoked in the presence of a very good friend of mine who was an... afficionado *euphemism*, so it was definitely more social for me. I never actively sought it out, although I do have very fond memories of the times spent with that particular friend. So, all in all, please don't take this as an endorsement of drug use/abuse. I definitely don't advocate teenagers partaking in this kind of stuff. I guess what I wanted to convey with this whole post is... that the world isn't as Black and White as (some of) you may think.
 
QUOTE (poonk @ Jan 10 2008, 10:17 AM) Marijuana ain't that great, as far as I'm concerned. Honestly it just makes me feel as if I'm sleepy, but can't get to sleep, sort of fatigued. I don't see the appeal-- I'd much rather have a drink, thanks! *LOLs inappropriately* .
Marijuana has different affects on different people, many people have said that it just makes them sleepy. I researched the drug a few years ago for one of my classes (drugs were a part of the alternate states of consciousness unit) and I remember something like the effects of marijuana depends on what you expect to feel while smoking it, it's a psychological drug, and that its best to smoke it with an experienced user, that can tell you what you can expect to feel after smoking it.

Like I said somewhere in this thread already, I'm not against marijuana, but I think moderation is key. I like drinking, smoking pot but I do both in moderation. It's fun to just take a break, let loose every once in awhile. Too much of anything will harm you in the end.
 
I had my first drink when I was of legal age, I stayed clear of alcohol when I was 16. My brother and sister are around that age and I'm pretty sure that they aren't drinking or smoking pot.
Yes I think a lot of youngsters start drinking too early, because it's so "COOL" yes getting drunk and losing control is soooooo coool
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I just think that a lot of teens that start drinking and smoking don't know what they're getting into, they tend to lose control and suffer dire consequences because they don't know what they're doing.

I think that if people are going to drink and smoke pot (the only drug I'm ok with) they should do it when they are mature enough to handle it. I never drink til the point that I lose control of myself. It's dangerous, especially if you're at a club or bar, anything could happen to you.
And, if you are going to drink all the time, just to escape reality.. well then I agree with sayonara solita, that is mentally weak, and drinking isn't going to solve your problems. Quite frankly, it'll just make everything 10x worse.

However, sayonara solita, if people are just drinking every once in awhile, at social gatherings or whatever... I have no problem with that. I do it myself...and I know lots of people in my age group that do.
 
First I have to say I was kinda half-expecting to get pilloried for my previous not-anti-drug comment; I'm glad I was wrong!

QUOTE (julezia @ Jan 11 2008, 12:45 PM)I just think that a lot of teens that start drinking and smoking don't know what they're getting into, they tend to lose control and suffer dire consequences because they don't know what they're doing.

I think that if people are going to drink and smoke pot (the only drug I'm ok with) they should do it when they are mature enough to handle it.I completely agree with this. As I said before, I actually never drank before I was 21 (the legal age where I live), so it wasn't a case of an underage kid drinking to impress their friends. Same with the marijuana: it was only with a very good friend of mine, in the apartment we shared as adults, not at a party somewhere. This, I feel, definitely tempered my feelings towards it, as I didn't feel any peer pressure in the situation; I could pass on it and he wouldn't care (and half the time I did pass, because I don't smoke so it gave me coughing fits).


QUOTE I never drink til the point that I lose control of myself. It's dangerous, especially if you're at a club or bar, anything could happen to you.I have done this on occasion *ahem* and it's pretty awful. I really don't recommend it. A major hangover is one of the worst feelings I've ever experienced... yet somehow it hasn't kept me from drinking again (eventually).
 
Alcohol one of the greatest things ever developed but of course not every day and then there is marihuana maybe once a month but still interesting. What can i do I am college student.
 
I don't smoke or do drugs.
Thank god i have enough self-esteem to hold me out of consuming those things. It won't do us any good afterall.
 
I smoked a fag once when I was about 13 out of pure curiosity but didn't enjoy it and have never smoked since. I started drinking at the legal age (that's 18) and am a social drinker. My personal reason for being a social drinking is I feel drinking on your own at home is a bit of a slippery slope.

I have never taken illicit drugs despite numerous offers. I do know plenty of friends who have smoked cannabis though. Like most things I feel cannabis can be all right in moderation and from personal experiences of friends most were in control i.e they would stop shortly before the exams. The problem comes however in the odd person who can't control their habit (this made up a minority of the people I knew) but I believe the same problem holds true for alcohol. In short just because people take a bit of weed doesn't mean their whole life will spiral out of control.

As for harder drugs I knew a few mates who took speed, coke and even acid. I don't know anyone who did heroin though. My attitude towards these drugs is more mixed and I feel the chances of losing control (both financial and physical) are far greater. I remember living in a dorm with some room mate who took so much drugs he went mad. The person was really paranoid and even threaten to attack us with a sword! I am not joking that actually happened!
 
(Dammit, I should read before voting...I drink...and put "once and never again"...
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.....Monsta666 ...drinking at home blows eh?....no fun....(monsta666..are you british...or live anywhere in the "English" region?...you used "fag"....I'm only assuming something)

Anyways, is it me or does any one else find it annoying when someone says that "Drugs are bad" without the experience.... I don't know, but I've placed myself in mindset where I find people to be annoying when they critique something they themselves have never experienced...People who've had bad experiences count too....its all about "Experience" without it your words are nothing but words used in religion (oh crap sorry I had no other way of summing that up....sorry for bringing religion into this....hehe..I at least hope my point was received)

So far the only things that I will say are O.K in my books are Drinking and Weed.

Drinking because its great fun, especially with friends and family..try not to do it alone...that's..sad.

Weed, Is ok too ( kids don't listen to everything your read) I've done it before but I know for a fact that it's effects are long lasting...it won't hit you when you smoke it...but know that You'll get dumber and slower in the future if you keep smoking it...frequently.

Other than that... Smoking Cigs/fags...doing hardcore drugs like heroin, cocaine and crack..are really a big "NEVER" because the last thing I want to do is shorten my life span
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Then again...readers.... this is IMO!
 
QUOTE (HyeVltg3 @ Mar 18 2008, 01:43 AM).....Monsta666 ...drinking at home blows eh?....no fun....(monsta666..are you british...or live anywhere in the "English" region?...you used "fag"....I'm only assuming something)
London to be precise though I have lived in Norwich (and Edinburgh, I know Scotland) for longer. What does English region mean? Hmm maybe it is a reference to Gibraltar the Channel Islands and dare I say the Falklands? Yes fag is a slang term (many used in Britain) to describe a cigarette. In any case being a somewhat mellow fellow and not a big fan of guns I wouldn't want to smoke people no matter how curious I was!
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Just to avoid confusion I have not smoked fags but have smoked a cigarette!

I don't have major problems with weed but there is a large myth that weed is harmless. This is not true. Unlike normal cigarettes spiffs are not filtered so you will inhale a higher percentage of tar. Furthermore spiffs often have a higher amount of tar than normal cigarettes. Then there is the actual effect of weed itself. The drug has been linked to a number of mental conditions namely schizophrenia and memory loss.
 
well i kinda do

cause i lack consertation i dunno why
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sometimes at scool before test i smoke little pot to help me consertrate
but im not addicted to it.

so basicly i do maybe once or twice a year
 
i'm a daily smoker, but not a "pack a day" smoker. i don't do any other illegal substance, and drink occasionally. i follow the guidelines while smoking, i'm at least 25 feet away from entrances, and i don't just smoke randomly in public areas, and usually i check with the people i'm around to see if their "kosher" with the death sticks. i know that cigarettes are bad for me, and that they cause lung cancer, mouth cancer, blah blah blah. my fathers a dentist and he constantly warns me of the dangers and damages associated with smoking. what i don't get though, is that in todays society, its like if your a smoker your the scum of the world. i'll be the first to admit i started smoking because i thought it looked cool, and then really started smoking because i enjoyed it and because it help me relax before a test (college student) or before something that required lots of thinking. not to point figures, but can i ask why so many people dislike smokers so much? i carry gum and cologne with me, so i don't even smell of cigarettes, but if people catch me smoking they give me the look like i'm the anti-christ. when it comes down to it...its just a cigarette, what gives?
 
Heck no, I'm screwed up enough as it is without that sort of stuff.

Only drug I do is caffeine. Planning to drop the soda, and go for the pills insted
 
I'm on all kinds of prescription drugs, like Singulair, Xolair(damn expensive though...US$5,000/month...good thing insurance covers most of it), and more. Side effects are hell. I also take ibuprofen all the time, and use the cream sometimes, but thats only for bike trials.

But no recreational drug use.

I'm 17 right now, never had any recreational drugs (ie marijuana) and never had any alcohol.

Why I don't drink:
I have had a good friend my entire life, since 1st grade. His dad is a mechanic and an alcoholic. He would drink all the time in his garage and store all his beer in a mini-fridge out there. When me and my friend were around 12 or 13, his dad started offering us beer (he was obviously drunk). Of course, we both paid attention in health class, and ignored him. Now, about 5 years later, his family is about to split up. He hates his dad and moved out to live with his grandparents (not legally, just physically). His brother(15) is now his dad's drinking buddy. Their mother is threatening divorce. Thats why I don't drink. I never want to be an alcoholic. One drink can do it. I don't look down on people who drink alcohol (except alcoholics), I just choose not to have any. I wouldn't dream of doing it to fit in, because I don't want to shorten my life span, but I don't mind if other people do, as long as they don't get too drunk. It's their own life, let them do as they please, just don't let it interfere with mine.

Why I don't smoke:
Basically, I have asthma, and cannot be in the same room as a smoker without choking. If I tried it myself, I would probably suffocate after one puff. I don't necessarily think smoking is wrong, or should be outlawed, I just think its a bad idea. I don't look down on smokers, I just think its a stupid think to do, and it bothers me when I have to leave a store, or hold my breath when I go near the entrance. It's their own life, let them do as they please, just don't let it interfere with mine.

Why I don't do other drugs:
Why should I? They are dangerous, can cause damage to your health, and cost time, money, plus risk of legal action. The only plus is fitting in (I don't care), and the buzz/drunken feeling. I have had to take an epipen for an asthma attack. Its basically an injection of adrenaline, similar to a few illegal substances. Sure, it felt cool, and gave me a rush, but I can live without it. I know other drugs are insanely more powerful, but that makes me think I might get addicted, so I choose not to try it. Do I look down on drug users? Of course not! I just personally don't think it's worth the risk. It's their own life, let them do as they please, just don't let it interfere with mine.

So... my philosophy is:

Don't let it affect other people. If you follow those that rule, alls well. Have a blast, kill yourself if you want to, I won't look down on you. I'll just sit this one out.
 
QUOTE (chickenwing71x @ May 29 2008, 11:41 PM) Don't let it affect other people. If you follow those that rule, alls well. Have a blast, kill yourself if you want to, I won't look down on you. I'll just sit this one out.
Now that's the way to do it! *high five* If it's only your health at risk, then hey, do what you will with hit. If you're not blowing smoke in my face or beating me to the ground in a drug-induced fury, then it's all good by me.

But holy crap, I can't stand the smell of cigarette smoke. It's like death to me! But I never really have any severe problems with that kind of thing happening. If I'm walking by someone around campus who's smoking, I'll just hold my breath a few seconds, and bam, there ya' go! I get the fresh air I so desperately crave, and he gets the smoke-tastic freedom he so desperately craves.

but hansaysso, I feel for you! I've got nothing against smoking at all (polite smoking, of course). If I'm talking with a smoker (which, believe it or not, I've done on occasion
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) I'll talk just the same as with any other fella/felleretta (unless they reek of smoke, in which case I try to breathe and little as possible X_X the smell of smoke does kill me). But there really is a lot of general resentment for smokers (at least here in the states), and I think that is something that has happened once the public media was made to be strictly anti-smoking. It's getting almost crazy how much anti-smoking propaganda is out there these days. I'm pretty sure that everyone knows smoking is unhealthy, but that doesn't make it evil. People just tend to make a judgement when they see someone smoking, because all their life they've seen smoking in a strictly negative light.
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*sigh* it's not so much a problem with smoking as it is with stereotyping.
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but if you're ever smoking outside and people keep looking the other way, they're probably just trying to avoid breathing any smoke it. The smoke, after all, is quite nasty to the uninitiated.
 
QUOTE Now that's the way to do it! *high five* If it's only your health at risk, then hey, do what you will with hit. If you're not blowing smoke in my face or beating me to the ground in a drug-induced fury, then it's all good by me.

The problem is that with some drugs (including very common ones like alcohol), you lose your ability to control yourself.

So saying that it's fine to do drugs as long as you don't hurt anyone... It's like saying it's fine to drive at 120 km/h in a town as long as you don't it a pedestrian.
 
QUOTE (Dalriada @ May 30 2008, 02:11 AM) The problem is that with some drugs (including very common ones like alcohol), you lose your ability to control yourself.
but of course! but realize the 120km/hr analogy work only with illegal drugs. doing legal drugs is like driving below the speed limit in a town, which is fine so long as you don't rear-end anyone and dent their car.
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Responsibility is key in every aspect of life.
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QUOTE but of course! but realize the 120km/hr analogy work only with illegal drugs. doing legal drugs is like driving below the speed limit in a town, which is fine so long as you don't rear-end anyone and dent their car.
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The effects of legal drugs can be far more destructive than a dent on your car.
Drinking a glass of wine during some meals is fine.
Being completely drunk the saturday night and vomiting on you shoes is not a big deal. Growing in a family with alcohol-addicted parents is a completely different story.

Sadly, the third hypothesis is too common.

The reason why I don't drink alcohol (except champagne to celebrate an event) or do drugs. I'm stupid enough enough when my mind is clear.


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Responsibility is key in every aspect of life.
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We've already had this discussion, haven't we ?
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