QUOTE Well i picked up anime which was differnt,
aimed at adults primaily, runs in a series,
more realistic, it was just plain bettter.
HAHAHAHAHAHA !
Non, serieusement...
We've understand you're an anime integrist, but try to be a bit more subtle. Most animes are aimed at kids or teenagers and few even try to be realistic.
An hint : Why do you think so many heroes in animes are high-schoolers ? Identification. That should tell you what's the main market.
QUOTE And yes Anime has it's cartoony equivalents, just as Americans or other coutnries have their own anime equivalents, however i am reffering to the majority of media presented.
In your previous message, you seemed to say there was an essentiel difference between animes and cartoons.
If the only difference is that more cartoons are aimed at children than animes, then it's a weak difference. Especially since we know few things about animes-aimed-at-children, because of a sample bias : we know Japanese animes from websites/reviews/forums, which are interested mainly about animes aimed at teenagers.
And yet, I bet Doreamon or Totoro are better known worldwide than Naruto or Ichigo (Naruto has never been
appointed ambassador by the Japanese Foreign Minister
)
About the mainstreamness of cartoons for teenagers, it's far from a few undergrounds series. Gargoyles, the whole DC animated universe (Batman/Superman/JLU), Avatar are mainstream.
If you want to look at Europe, the old Ulysses 31 or the Mysterious cities of gold and the new Skyland or Oban Star-racers don't have to be ashamed of the comparaison with Japanese animes.
I'm not speaking about a little cartoon made by two and half cursed artists in the basement in the downtown, but about quite famous series.
By the way, your scienfic method could be improved imho.
QUOTE But have you ever read the history of comics and america and compared it to the history of manga, which is the basis of anime?
You will find comics in america were origanally used politically or point out blunders in society, not so much art as it was just funny and another way to bring you news.
I'm well aware of the history of US comics (the CCA for example). It didn't prevent Fritz the Cat, Maus or The Watchers from being written.
You're also missing the existence of a very lively European comics industry, which have a significant influence (Jean Giraud / Moebius is the first example coming to my mind : French comics artist, worked with Stan Lee, friend with Hayao Miyazaki...).
QUOTE Japanese manga was born out of a need for porn, yes porn. And due to this it has always been oritented in the majority towards conservative adults.
The manga under its current form is often said to be fathered by the God of Manga Osamu Tezuka. He isn't known for his porn stories, strangely enough.
Of course, I'd have agreed if you had said that mangas didn't have to support the burden of American puritanism.
I'll pass on your claim that mangas are art while comics aren't. It's unsupported and quite unsupportable. And the last paragraph doesn't really make sense, sorry.