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#21 gdpetti

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 02:47 AM

So you don't want to tell us about the OVA's? No spoiler hunh? I assume they'll use them later in the series? Did you say they were part of some extra package?

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    3. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! 2 - 9/10 (airing) B
    4. Sangatsu no Lion - 9/10 (airing) C-
    5. Fuuka - 8/10 (airing) B-
    6. Masamune-kun no Revenge - 8/10 (airing) A
    7. Little Witch Academia - 8/10 (airing) A-
    8. Seiren - 7/10 (airing) B
    9. Demi-chan wa Kataritai - 7/10 (airing) A+
    10. Chain Chronicle: Haecceitas no Hikari - 7/10 (airing) B+
    11. Rewrite 2nd Season: Moon-hen / Terra-hen - 6/10 (ar) C-
    12. Tales of Zestiria the X 2nd season - 6/10 (airing) B+
    13. Koro-sensei Quest! - 5/10 (airing) A-
    14. Dragon Ball Super - 5/10 (airing) A+
    15. Reikenzan: Eichi e no Shikaku - 4/10 (airing) B-
    *G. pleasure: Ao no Exorcist Kyoto Fujouou-hen - 4/10 (ar) B-

Posted 12 March 2016 - 01:00 PM

QUOTE (gdpetti @ Mar 6 2016,08:47 PM)
spoiler hunh? I assume they'll use them later in the series? Did you say they were part of some extra package
yes instead of seeing raw OVAs bundled in 7 and 8th mangas, i 'fast-forwarded' comparing ep.1 differences... so #10 prior his master died MC said "i don't take apprentices! The answer won't change, even until doomsday" oh irony rolleyes.gif
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Posted 24 March 2016 - 12:52 AM

Yeah, I went through that OVA with no sub, it is the first episode... faked me out at first, seeing her playing volleyball I think in the opening seconds... I keep forgetting that this series is placed in the afterwar years.... I keep thinking of it as turn of the last century, seeing how no technology is ever seen, for the most part.... and the characters jobs are the same way... from a previous era that is fading out... in part, as they too transition and adapt to the new age.

This series is ongoing as well, I wonder if they've gotten a green light for a second series yet? Like baseball, especially here in the States, it may be a dying sport, but it still attracts the older segment of the audience with money to spend, so continue it most definitely does do.... I wonder if rakugo isn't the same in Japan? and maybe this anime will get that pickup notice due to the advertisers demand?

That said, this remains a well done work, more of a work of art than the overwhelming majority of animes out there, a rarity, and it isn't in parts like Aria or Tamayura due to the usual kids, school life etc, but the whole piece is... maybe the word is adult? The dynamics change from high school, but the people really don't for the most part.... so maybe that analogy isn't fair, but accurate, due to the simple fact that we, as adults will let the kid stuff slack on most subjects, but not the adult stuff, sort of how old black and white films can be given slack for the way they treat many subjects, by saying that's the way it was back then.... but if they do a B&W film of that time period now, we don't allow the same slack. Hmmm.

Either way, this is a nice work of art.

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    2. Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon - 10/10 (airing) B
    3. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! 2 - 9/10 (airing) B
    4. Sangatsu no Lion - 9/10 (airing) C-
    5. Fuuka - 8/10 (airing) B-
    6. Masamune-kun no Revenge - 8/10 (airing) A
    7. Little Witch Academia - 8/10 (airing) A-
    8. Seiren - 7/10 (airing) B
    9. Demi-chan wa Kataritai - 7/10 (airing) A+
    10. Chain Chronicle: Haecceitas no Hikari - 7/10 (airing) B+
    11. Rewrite 2nd Season: Moon-hen / Terra-hen - 6/10 (ar) C-
    12. Tales of Zestiria the X 2nd season - 6/10 (airing) B+
    13. Koro-sensei Quest! - 5/10 (airing) A-
    14. Dragon Ball Super - 5/10 (airing) A+
    15. Reikenzan: Eichi e no Shikaku - 4/10 (airing) B-
    *G. pleasure: Ao no Exorcist Kyoto Fujouou-hen - 4/10 (ar) B-

Posted 24 March 2016 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE (gdpetti @ Mar 23 2016,6:52 PM)
Yeah, I went through that OVA with no sub, it is the first episode... faked me out at first, seeing her playing volleyball I think in the opening seconds... I keep forgetting that this series is placed in the afterwar years.... I keep thinking of it as turn of the last century, seeing how no technology is ever seen, for the most part.... and the characters jobs are the same way... from a previous era that is fading out... in part
by final preview maybe it'll cover OVA 2 but since ep'1, even knowing Sukeroku dies I'm still surprised with #12... Seeing how tragic it was right after he's back to rakugo, the lovers' suicide that Miyokichi's 'hell' meant for Kikuhiko instead sad.gif

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 12:22 AM

Just watched ep 12 and really liked the way they dispose of the two characters before moving back into the present time... unexpected, thus much appreciated.... nicely tied together with the earlier rakugo performance... nice and quick, clean and meaningfully expressing a relationship that until that moment we weren't allowed to see in any intimate terms, and then the result can be easily surmised as well... nicely written episode. Earlier, I really didn't expect the mc to express himself to her, so that was a little surprising as well, indicating he felt more towards her than he allowed himself to feel, though he did say to his friend a few eps back... so nice full ep.

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    3. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! 2 - 9/10 (airing) B
    4. Sangatsu no Lion - 9/10 (airing) C-
    5. Fuuka - 8/10 (airing) B-
    6. Masamune-kun no Revenge - 8/10 (airing) A
    7. Little Witch Academia - 8/10 (airing) A-
    8. Seiren - 7/10 (airing) B
    9. Demi-chan wa Kataritai - 7/10 (airing) A+
    10. Chain Chronicle: Haecceitas no Hikari - 7/10 (airing) B+
    11. Rewrite 2nd Season: Moon-hen / Terra-hen - 6/10 (ar) C-
    12. Tales of Zestiria the X 2nd season - 6/10 (airing) B+
    13. Koro-sensei Quest! - 5/10 (airing) A-
    14. Dragon Ball Super - 5/10 (airing) A+
    15. Reikenzan: Eichi e no Shikaku - 4/10 (airing) B-
    *G. pleasure: Ao no Exorcist Kyoto Fujouou-hen - 4/10 (ar) B-

Posted 02 April 2016 - 01:00 AM

QUOTE (gdpetti @ Mar 26 2016, 06:22 PM)
really liked the way they dispose of the two characters before moving back into the present time... unexpected, thus much appreciated.... nicely tied together with the earlier rakugo performance... nice and quick, clean and meaningfully expressing a relationship that until that moment we weren't allowed to see in any intimate terms, and then the result can be easily surmised as well...
yep but Matsuda mourned their death the most ;/ so with this finale, makes sense why Konatsu and Kikuhiko's relationship was so harsh... yet nice they smile again thanks to Yotaro now telling he'll take care of her kid, I hope he didn't troll us in that preview or would be a cruel April Fools' joke today tongue.gif
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Posted 06 April 2016 - 01:51 AM

Again a nice ep and nice setup for another season... throwing out a new setup with the woman pregnant... reminds me of fishing, not that I do, but you pitch or cast out the lure on the hook and then prep to catch something like an audience or fish and reel it back in... .I like how they prepped for the next season that way without taking anything out of the series.... left whole, but always wanting more. cool.gif

This is a good wrapup ep.... covering all the bases left unattended... so much so, that today I went back to watch the first long ep again to remember what was said, done etc.... all of this is a look back as the mc is telling his student and the girl/woman the story of him and Suke as they started together under his master... I assume to the end with the deaths over the balcony... nice construction, and well, 'adult'... or not just juvenile for a change.... and with an older audience, the ad revenue should be of a bigger quantity as well, so another season should be expected... if Mother Nature doesn't step in first, which is expected to happen 'soon'. So, oh well.... nice that they ended it... and when I rewatched that first ep, when the student returns from being left in the snow and the 'daughter' brings him back inside to talk to Kiku, our mc, the 'master' now... he starts with telling the to prepare for a long story/night or whatever.... so this could be the first she has really heard of what really happened, as before, they had a scene in which she asked her mom's former geisha 'master' or whatever... who really didn't seem to know any particulars... and perhaps no one, outside of our mc, really knows.

Then this ep 13 picks it up at the end seemingly a few years later... that story finished long ago... interesting. I like the storytelling here, especially as our mc isn't that likeable.... it was Suke that was, even till the end, but the writing keeps us riding along like a good rakugo performance. huh.gif

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    3. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! 2 - 9/10 (airing) B
    4. Sangatsu no Lion - 9/10 (airing) C-
    5. Fuuka - 8/10 (airing) B-
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    10. Chain Chronicle: Haecceitas no Hikari - 7/10 (airing) B+
    11. Rewrite 2nd Season: Moon-hen / Terra-hen - 6/10 (ar) C-
    12. Tales of Zestiria the X 2nd season - 6/10 (airing) B+
    13. Koro-sensei Quest! - 5/10 (airing) A-
    14. Dragon Ball Super - 5/10 (airing) A+
    15. Reikenzan: Eichi e no Shikaku - 4/10 (airing) B-
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Posted 07 January 2017 - 01:01 AM

Shōuwa Genroku Era, Rakugo and Double Suicide: Sukeroku anew arc, S2 at last
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Again a nice ep and nice setup for another season... throwing out a new setup with the woman pregnant... reminds me of fishing, not that I do, but you pitch or cast out the lure on the hook and then prep to catch something like an audience or fish and reel it back in... .I like how they prepped for the next season that way without taking anything out of the series.... left whole, but always wanting more. B) This is a good wrapup ep.... covering all the bases left unattended... so much so, that today I went back to watch the first long ep again to remember what was said, done etc.... all of this is a look back as the mc is telling his student and the girl/woman the story of him and Suke as they started together under his master... I assume to the end with the deaths over the balcony... nice construction, and well, 'adult'... or not just juvenile for a change.... and with an older audience, the ad revenue should be of a bigger quantity as well, so another season should be expected... if Mother Nature doesn't step in first, which is expected to happen 'soon'.

apocalypse can wait ;p seeing that S2 started today, i guess it'll be 13 eps too :D
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Posted 15 January 2017 - 10:16 PM

Well, that 'apocalypse' won't start until that 'dark star' crosses the ecliptic plane and discharges etc... so plenty of time for more anime... and this one is well written, yes it's adults, but there are kids and teen shows that are written well, but good writing is definitely a scarce resource in any field... I hope the writing stays on par.



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    2. Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon - 10/10 (airing) B
    3. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! 2 - 9/10 (airing) B
    4. Sangatsu no Lion - 9/10 (airing) C-
    5. Fuuka - 8/10 (airing) B-
    6. Masamune-kun no Revenge - 8/10 (airing) A
    7. Little Witch Academia - 8/10 (airing) A-
    8. Seiren - 7/10 (airing) B
    9. Demi-chan wa Kataritai - 7/10 (airing) A+
    10. Chain Chronicle: Haecceitas no Hikari - 7/10 (airing) B+
    11. Rewrite 2nd Season: Moon-hen / Terra-hen - 6/10 (ar) C-
    12. Tales of Zestiria the X 2nd season - 6/10 (airing) B+
    13. Koro-sensei Quest! - 5/10 (airing) A-
    14. Dragon Ball Super - 5/10 (airing) A+
    15. Reikenzan: Eichi e no Shikaku - 4/10 (airing) B-
    *G. pleasure: Ao no Exorcist Kyoto Fujouou-hen - 4/10 (ar) B-

Posted 23 January 2017 - 02:01 AM

this one is well written, yes it's adults, but there are kids and teen shows that are written well, but good writing is definitely a scarce resource in any field... I hope the writing stays on par.

It stays in ep.3 with the father of Konatsu's son, Yotaro found his own rakugo...
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    2. Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon - 10/10 (airing) B
    3. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! 2 - 9/10 (airing) B
    4. Sangatsu no Lion - 9/10 (airing) C-
    5. Fuuka - 8/10 (airing) B-
    6. Masamune-kun no Revenge - 8/10 (airing) A
    7. Little Witch Academia - 8/10 (airing) A-
    8. Seiren - 7/10 (airing) B
    9. Demi-chan wa Kataritai - 7/10 (airing) A+
    10. Chain Chronicle: Haecceitas no Hikari - 7/10 (airing) B+
    11. Rewrite 2nd Season: Moon-hen / Terra-hen - 6/10 (ar) C-
    12. Tales of Zestiria the X 2nd season - 6/10 (airing) B+
    13. Koro-sensei Quest! - 5/10 (airing) A-
    14. Dragon Ball Super - 5/10 (airing) A+
    15. Reikenzan: Eichi e no Shikaku - 4/10 (airing) B-
    *G. pleasure: Ao no Exorcist Kyoto Fujouou-hen - 4/10 (ar) B-

Posted 10 February 2017 - 01:01 AM

The expanded synopsis seems to have all the required elements of male/female relationship with the additional 'master' element placed within cultural context, which can add some depth on many levels, even for non speakers if translated well, which is always key in such literary/poetic/storytelling formats.... limitations of females in society is there with the historical elements... lots of potential if used.

Actually at last Konatsu did Rakugo in ep.4 "Jugemu Jugemu Go-Kō-no-Surikire Kaijari-suigyo no Suigyō-matsu Unrai-matsu... Fūrai-matsu Kū-Neru Tokoro Ni Sumu Tokoro Yaburakōji no Burakōji Paipo" etc, but #5 hints Yakumo's death :(
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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:28 PM

Seems to be a few eps out now, perhaps I watch them... had to look up the Wikipedia page to remember those names. :unsure:  If nothing else, it seems that the writer wants to continue to push the story along rather fast.... making you wonder what's the hurry (compared to most animes based in manga)? I have to guess that the manga is moving rather fast as well? It doesn't say 'ongoing'... so I wonder if the mangaka finished the story? We may see this kid grown up... The story must be taking place in the 80s, right? :unsure:



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    3. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! 2 - 9/10 (airing) B
    4. Sangatsu no Lion - 9/10 (airing) C-
    5. Fuuka - 8/10 (airing) B-
    6. Masamune-kun no Revenge - 8/10 (airing) A
    7. Little Witch Academia - 8/10 (airing) A-
    8. Seiren - 7/10 (airing) B
    9. Demi-chan wa Kataritai - 7/10 (airing) A+
    10. Chain Chronicle: Haecceitas no Hikari - 7/10 (airing) B+
    11. Rewrite 2nd Season: Moon-hen / Terra-hen - 6/10 (ar) C-
    12. Tales of Zestiria the X 2nd season - 6/10 (airing) B+
    13. Koro-sensei Quest! - 5/10 (airing) A-
    14. Dragon Ball Super - 5/10 (airing) A+
    15. Reikenzan: Eichi e no Shikaku - 4/10 (airing) B-
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Posted 18 February 2017 - 01:00 AM

We may see this kid grown up... The story must be taking place in the 80s, right? :unsure:

I guess seeing in ep.7 a film of young Kikuhiko and Sukeroku, prior what really happened before dying with Miyokichi... oh did you notice his eyes in #5 OP?:o

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Posted Yesterday, 01:35 AM

Ah, no, didn't  notice the eyes, so many animes use color symbols in the eyes that I can't remember them....

 

Just finished ep 7... Wow!... such good writing within the confines of the medium... it seems that this manga is ongoing still, so I might have to see where they are in comparison, as if we catch up too fast, the anime's next season will have to wait at least a year.... :(

 

The music/songs were better last season, but I fast forward through them anyway... though I didn't last season because I liked them... oh well, that might  have to do with an aspect of preselling the package?

The storytellling is strong.... I have to assume it's coming straight out of the manga.... it's nice to see an adult based story, as the kid to teen stuff is so limited... and the adult story encompasses it all, from birth to death, so obviously the themes and stories have more depth... and the story is so well told... .jumping in time to the next important point in the life experiences... known esoterically as the 'markers' in our lives.... doing so is essentially an edit to just the 'highlights', like with a sports review show... only the key points.. and I really liked the addition to the first season finale of the death of his two friends/exlover over the balcony... as seen by his servant/assistant... that other point of view... which changes the whole thing is some ways, none at all in others essentially... and this aspect of the story is told in rakugo style it seems... perhaps the whole story is... I don't know rakugo... but it seems little is wasted in this storytelling... filler up to the essential points in the plot/life experiences... fast forward to the next setup.... next 'marker'... very interesting... even as most of the characters animation is rather basic... nothing flashy or unusual... just depth of character added layer upon layer as we sink into their lives and how they interact.

 

Beautiful. ^_^






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