Virus information

QUOTE (Nat @ May 1 2006, 09:09 PM) Anyhow this brought up a question for me. If someone else has a virus and they are my seed or seeder or whatever it's called, can I get any virus that they have?
Extremely unlikely sice data transfer from BT goes throught a hash check. So your virus would need the same hash values as the real data. The probabilities of that happening are close to nothing.

Of course, if you downlaod a torrent that has a virus in it from the start, it is another thing entirely. Don't forget virus are programs like any other programs. So if you CHOOSE to download a torrent that has a file that is (and always was) a virus, you will of course download what you asked for ... a virus!

But as long as you don't download things you don't know about, you should be safe. For examples, fansubs can be considered very safe since subbing group take great pride in their work and it is not very easy to transform a video file into an active virus.


QUOTE I'm now using two new virus programs which are supposed to be way better than Norton which didn't catch it until it was too late. Not a good idea. NEVER run more than one firewall or anti-virus. Other wise they may end up thinking that the other anti-virus is a virus and they will "attack" one another!

QUOTE Extremely unlikely sice data transfer from BT goes throught a hash check. So your virus would need the same hash values as the real data. The probabilities of that happening are close to nothing.Quite like being struck by lighting in real life? Hmmmm considering my family on my father's side, anything is possible then! *panics*


QUOTE Of course, if you downlaod a torrent that has a virus in it from the start, it is another thing entirely. Don't forget virus are programs like any other programs. So if you CHOOSE to download a torrent that has a file that is (and always was) a virus, you will of course download what you asked for ... a virus! But what if they didn't know they had a virus but they actually did because they didn't have an up to date scan or something? *mummble mummble* And then they would spread it to everyone and the electronic world would stand still!

Seriously though, at least one of those people have to have an idiot somewhere in their families. My family has visited in the past which is now why I have my comp set up not to connect to the net without my password. But in theory, couldn't something like that happen? Or are we back to being struck by lightning again *ponders if she should be wearing rubber for this conversation*


QUOTE But as long as you don't download things you don't know about, you should be safe. But how do I know if it's safe if viruses are being invented, changed and remade everyday? I'm sorry if I'm asking too many questions. I tend to be a pain.


QUOTE Not a good idea. NEVER run more than one firewall or anti-virus. Other wise they may end up thinking that the other anti-virus is a virus and they will "attack" one another! Well how do I know if one of them is better? Also don't they attack firewalls if they aren't compatable? How do I know if they are? Yes. I know I'm annoying

usually, if it comes up as a virus, wouldn't it come up with a non-video-type file (i.e. .avi.torrent, .mp4.torrent, .mkv.torrent, etc...) usually whenever i'm downloading animes i just look at that. i caught like 6 infected files before... one was just recently.

QUOTE But what if they didn't know they had a virus but they actually did because they didn't have an up to date scan or something? *mummble mummble* And then they would spread it to everyone and the electronic world would stand still!
That's unlikely. Since they MADE the file themselves as a fansubbed avi/mkv/mp4 file, it's unlikely that the file was infected.


QUOTE But how do I know if it's safe if viruses are being invented, changed and remade everyday? I'm sorry if I'm asking too many questions. I tend to be a pain.
He means, use your intuition, mainly. Just go with what you feel most comfortable with. If it does have a virus for whatever reason, just run an anti-virus check.


QUOTE Well how do I know if one of them is better? Also don't they attack firewalls if they aren't compatable? How do I know if they are? Yes. I know I'm annoying tongue.gif
Just run the anti-virus checks one at a time, even though it takes while. start with what you think works best.

QUOTE (Nat @ May 1 2006, 11:36 PM)Well how do I know if one of them is better? Also don't they attack firewalls if they aren't compatable? How do I know if they are? Yes. I know I'm annoying Sorry, that was badly worded. I meant only ONE anti-virus AND only ONE firewall per machine. 2 anti-virus will attack one another at some point (might be subtle, but you are heading toward problems) (2 firewall will block one another and you will have trouble to effectively setup rules since there is no way in an OS to order what firewall will be first and wich will be second.) So basicly, only run ONE of each.

As for the best anti-virus. Read some reviews. Life is full of choices and you can't avoid to make them.


QUOTE Seriously though, at least one of those people have to have an idiot somewhere in their families. What does that have to do with anything? The virus cannot get into a torrent. It needs to be there from the start when the torrent author made the torrent.

As hamasusuke said, go with files you trust. And remember what I said. Video files cannot contain a virus since there is no executable code in there. (actually they may contain one, but it is useless since there is no way to activate it, so simply dont' worry about it) Basicly what you should watch out for are executable, script files and HTML files.

The rule of thumb is, virus are not magical. They are programs that need to come from somewhere and that need to be executed.

hey hey.... can i ask...??? my teacher's flash disk has benn attacked by a virus named Noonlight.worm that's a very dangerous virus isn't it??? the files cannot be heal... must be delete

QUOTE (megaman @ Sep 16 2006, 02:22 AM) hey hey.... can i ask...??? my teacher's flash disk has benn attacked by a virus named Noonlight.worm that's a very dangerous virus isn't it??? the files cannot be heal... must be delete
According to this, it seems it is a preatty rare virus.
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_139426.htm#tab1

They don't even provide a complete description of what the virus does. Which would indicate it is not extremely dangerous.

Try using an anti-virus to scan the machine and clean the files.

QUOTE (Bold @ Sep 16 2006, 07:19 AM) According to this, it seems it is a preatty rare virus.
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_139426.htm#tab1

They don't even provide a complete description of what the virus does. Which would indicate it is not extremely dangerous.

Try using an anti-virus to scan the machine and clean the files.
It may be rare, but it is absolutely NOT harmless!!! We have fought this + whatever friends it brought over the last three days on two different computers and as of this morning we have two computers with a new bios that will not do what we tell it anymore, even if we tell it too.

More likely scenario: This is EXTREMELY volatile, takes over java, disables all antivirus and firewall software, redirects regedit and msconfig into text files full of gobbledy-muck while having it's way with them, downloads other software continuously (or established a live link with a remote user as that suddenly was enabled in our BIOS), edits or possibly replaces the BIOS (disallowing boot from CD drive, jumps instantly to any drive it can and eventually brings the system to an unrecoverable boot loop that never even gets to windows. The last thing we ever saw working was telnet.exe.

There are indications that NoonLight was not the only culprit, as when we thought we had the upper hand, things like "obfuscated AAX" and "java.trojandownloader.openstream" appeared in our scans. The situation was possibly exacerbated by panicked application of various spy/trojan/virus/worm detection/deletion programs, but was bad enough before that.

The owner of our business(!) managed to backup all of our client files to an external drive sometime yesterday while it was silently killing itself, but still working. The theory, though, is that plugging this drive into my home PC (cause work is no longer an option) will result in the same unstoppable chain reaction. Therefore I, too am looking for a way to isolate or quarantine this drive the moment it is recognized by my system.

Not to talk sh--, but I am now EXTREMELY WARY of "My Identity Defender" "Stinger" and some other blah-blah software, as our problems started directly after downloading one of these.

If it did anything like this to other computers, in all likelyhood by the time they got the name of the culprit, it FAR too late to send an email or post a question on a forum.

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