North Korea got NUKES! =X


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hadji_129

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Truthfully, I'm not too sure what to think. I mean, some people see this as a bad thing. Lots of other are indifferent and couldn't care less. I, on the otherhand, am somewhat glad that they do have nukes.

*Ahem* Formulation Time!! I'll try to keep it simple.

Superpowers + Non-superpowers = World
Nukes = North Korea as a superpower
World + North Korea as a superpower = World + 1 superpower
Non-superpowers = "=|"
Superpowers - North Korea = "=("
North Korea = "=D"
Non-superpowers affected negatively by Superpowers - North Korea = "=D"
Me = "=D"
Japan = Pressured to make nukes
Anime = Smaller budget
Fansub.tv people = "=("
Me = "T__T"

Note: My theory is only valid if/until North Korea nukes someone, which will most likely not happen... At least not until we are all dead, or nuked by someone before that. Gratz to North Korea.

Anyways, I'll get back to being serious after I get a few responses.

Thoughts? =)
 
IMO North Korea has nukes because they want to show their power and more for defence against a attack. It is highly unlikely they would strike a country with a nuke unless they were nuked first......
 
Yeah, I dont think n-Korea would launch an attack. It would be awefull tactics because its still just them with 2 nukes against the world with a lot more.
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I dont really care that they have nukes now.
 
I find it kinda funny the way how they can fund and focus so much on military and weapon power. Practice with short and long range missiles and none of them got anywhere and not have enough money to feed the people. I mean COME ON how pathetic is that. South Korea has stopped suplying them with food donations aswell it was on the news.

Kim jon il should be called got no brains
 
N.Korea is just using scare tactics. This is kinda obvious because mr Kim Jong IL is smart enough to know that bush is a pansy and if he shot anywhere near north america george bush would litterly explode the world.
my summary is "who cares if they have nukes, we have more."
 
QUOTE (Clowd @ Oct 09 2006, 01:46 PM) my summary is "who cares if they have nukes, we have more."
even if you have more, the US is not allowed to use them anymore after the japanese bombing, they have a constitutional law now that they will not be able to use it without UN permissions and other problematic paths to get to use it. If Buch were to say that "the only possible way to destroy Iran right now is to use nukes," Bush would get arrested and forced to resign straight away at the moment, he has no power to urge the use of such thing.

Response to N.Korea: well, its not a considence they would have nukes since China is their ally and best friend.

Lets just see what or whom N.Korea targets...if its Japan then we all better wish we die right before the US steps in.
 
the US can nuke if they choose to, no one has the power to arrest Bush or remove him from power at the moment. Even if the UN opposed that at 100% there would be very little they could do about it, other than causing diplomatic pressure, sanctions (and on an extreme case, declare war on the US).
 
QUOTE (hadji_129 @ Oct 10 2006, 05:20 AM) Remember Iraq folks. The UN can't force the US to do anything.
Exactly, noone can stop the American World Police.
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IF anything, another country with nukes should be enough to make Bush think twice before declaring war.
 
QUOTE (hadji_129 @ Oct 09 2006, 03:23 AM) Truthfully, I'm not too sure what to think. I mean, some people see this as a bad thing. Lots of other are indifferent and couldn't care less. I, on the otherhand, am somewhat glad that they do have nukes.

*Ahem* Formulation Time!! I'll try to keep it simple.

Superpowers + Non-superpowers = World
Nukes = North Korea as a superpower
World + North Korea as a superpower = World + 1 superpower
Non-superpowers = "=|"
Superpowers - North Korea = "=("
North Korea = "=D"
Non-superpowers affected negatively by Superpowers - North Korea = "=D"
Me = "=D"
Japan = Pressured to make nukes
Anime = Smaller budget
Fansub.tv people = "=("
Me = "T__T"

Note: My theory is only valid if/until North Korea nukes someone, which will most likely not happen... At least not until we are all dead, or nuked by someone before that. Gratz to North Korea.

Anyways, I'll get back to being serious after I get a few responses.

Thoughts? =)
Flaw in the logic: Japan is non-militaristic since the WW - they're only allowed to have policing and other minor defense stuff. So they wouldn't really be able to start making nukes - thus lowering budget for anime. (though, if they could, they would probably make *more* anime, send it all to the U.S. - who will buy it all - and use the profits of that to fund their research /gg)
 
QUOTE (darkdog @ Oct 10 2006, 03:35 AM) the US can nuke if they choose to, no one has the power to arrest Bush or remove him from power at the moment. Even if the UN opposed that at 100% there would be very little they could do about it, other than causing diplomatic pressure, sanctions (and on an extreme case, declare war on the US).
yes maybe but highly unlikely, all i'm saying is Bush has no authority even if he is the president to order such a decree, that is why he would get arrested. and if it were to happen China, Pakistan, and other affecting countries that have nukes too would be ready to target US straight away.
 
korea has nukes? aha.... who cares. If my country ever gets blown up, I hope it will be quick and painless.
 
QUOTE (warita200 @ Oct 10 2006, 03:59 PM) korea has nukes? aha.... who cares. If my country ever gets blown up, I hope it will be quick and painless.
maybe you don't but whats the point of joining this site then, you joined to discuss about anime and other things, and who create anime Japan, would japan exist if they get shot with a nuke esp. tokyo. maybe, but the distribution would go down to zero. so in terms korea having nukes is a chain to even this site and its existance.
 
QUOTE (alchemist11 @ Oct 10 2006, 04:01 PM) maybe you don't but whats the point of joining this site then, you joined to discuss about anime and other things, and who create anime Japan, would japan exist if they get shot with a nuke esp. tokyo. maybe, but the distribution would go down to zero. so in terms korea having nukes is a chain to even this site and its existance.
got a point on that one, if they destroyed the land of animes, that would be the end of everything.
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QUOTE (alchemist11 @ Oct 10 2006, 03:46 AM)the US is not allowed to use them anymore after the japanese bombing, they have a constitutional law now that they will not be able to use it without UN permissions
There is no such thing! The US (or any country for that matter) would never relinguish their sovereign rights over their own country and belonging (in this case nuclear devices) to anyone.


QUOTE (alchemist11 @ Oct 10 2006, 05:57 PM)QUOTE (darkdog @ Oct 10 2006 @ 03:35 AM) the US can nuke if they choose to, no one has the power to arrest Bush or remove him from power at the moment. Even if the UN opposed that at 100% there would be very little they could do about it, other than causing diplomatic pressure, sanctions (and on an extreme case, declare war on the US). yes maybe but highly unlikely, all i'm saying is Bush has no authority even if he is the president to order such a decree, that is why he would get arrested. You seem really confused as to what the UN is. The UN is not a nation and does not have any power over the sovereignty of other nations. The UN is a council of nations, througth that council, a number of member nations can decide to take actions on various matters. But the UN are by no means an independant goverment.

So a UN resolution is the same as if a large number of nations signed a common petition. It is not a law. If someone decides to ignore that "petition", it is up to the demanding nations to ensure their petition is followed. This can be done by diplomatic pressure, commercial penalties, etc. But it is not a law. Since a law has to exist in a constitutional frame. The UN, since it is not a nation, does not have the possibility to make laws.


QUOTE (hadji_129 @ Oct 10 2006, 07:20 AM)Remember Iraq folks. The UN can't force the US to do anything. For the reasons I just stated, the UN cannot force any nation to do anything, at least directly. It really depends on what nations support a specific declaration. For instance, if all nations decide on a declaration asking a nation, lets say Congo, something. Do you really think Congo has the means to refuse a coalition of all other nation on earth? In the case of Iraq, it was most countries against the US, UK and a few others. What kind of pressure can you put on those that would make them move fast enough? Putting pressure on the US is a long and painfull process.

Here is a real life example, Canada had been having a little fight with the US over a question of selling wood. That disagreement lasted over 5 years until an agreement was reached (and even that agreement is not satisfactory to all). Due to their large economic weigth, the US can afford to ignore and stall nearly any country for a relatively long time.
 
Okay so here's the deal N.K. are still in a testing phase. they got something to explode underground we as a nation still won't say what it is we are leaning to nuke but even with this second "earth quake" that japan monitored we still won't say if it is or isn't one.

now my thoughts we should be more concerned about how fecal matter keeps getting into our leafy greens and carrots. damn eboli.
 
QUOTE (ghost-kun @ Oct 11 2006, 12:32 AM) now my thoughts we should be more concerned about how fecal matter keeps getting into our leafy greens and carrots. damn eboli.
That would be E-Coli, not eboli.

And that coment was totally irrelevant to the discussion at hand. This is the thougthfull section. Please make posts apropriate for it.

Further off topic or irrelevent posts will be deleted.
 
QUOTE (ghost-kun @ Oct 10 2006, 10:32 PM)Okay so here's the deal N.K. are still in a testing phase. they got something to explode underground we as a nation still won't say what it is we are leaning to nuke but even with this second "earth quake" that japan monitored we still won't say if it is or isn't one.
This is one thing that I think some people have ,issed...most speculation on whether or not this was a nuclear weapon (as far as articles and news that babbo has seen) lean towards north korea having something on the level of an A bomb likened to the level of that used in ww2...and even then not necessarily conventional, even for dropping it from a plane, and missiles that could carry such a payload are totally out of the question.

And regarding the first post, North korea could never become a super power just by getting nukes....france has nukes and just look at them >.>

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With the way they are at the moment it could turn out to be a real problem especially for china and even more so for america, will have to keep a close eye on them from naw on as they could naw corse mass destruction.
 
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